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Zdravo drugari, da ne otvaram novu temu,pitanje cu postaviti ovde.

Cale zapeo da kupi neki laptop za njega do 55000,pa kad vec kupuje,mislio sam da uzmem nesto dobro,sto bih i ja ponekad mogo da iskoristim za nasu struku (konkretno 3d max). Jel imate neki predlog posto sam ispao iz forme sto se tice hardvera,a pogotovo laptopova,nisam pratio desavanja na tom polju vec duze vreme. Meni je zapao za oko ovaj samsung. Sta vi mislite o tome?

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http://www.dizajnzona.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=98061 postavio sam linkove za neki programcic u caskanje, racunam tamo sve fele dolaze, a ovo moze biti zanimljivo svima, predpostavljam da je neko od modova to premestio. Koga ne mrzi nek pogleda, program za obradu slika, nod sistem, td.

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@vip88 nije da ne mozes raditi u 3D maxu na ovom laptopu ali za iste pare mozes kupiti bolji desktop. Mislim finese su u pitanju, neces naci drastinu razliku u laptop-ovima sa tom cenom. Ono sto je bitno znas i sam, sto vise memorije, sto bolja graficka i sto jaci procesor.

http://www.laptopcentar.rs/product/DELL-35...D-crni-26201303

Ovaj je bio najjaci od ponudjenih na ovom sajtu ali mu je dijagonala ekrana svega 15,6"

http://www.laptopcentar.rs/product/HP-ProB...4Z36EA-28201301

Ista cena ali slabiji procesor manje rama ali veci ekran.

 

Sta da ti kazem, sve je to isto s...e. Laptop je laptop i on nije namenjen za ozbiljniji rad, doduse moze ali skupo kosta.

 

Evo sto blize ovome to bolje http://www.workstationspecialist.com/mobil.../specification/ a cena jedno 4-5 puta cime ti raspolazes :D

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Je l probao neko maya 2014? Pa ovo previše liči na Max a tako se i ponaša... čemu više.. o zar se i to može...

Ja je koristim vec par meseci i ne vidim na sta mislis kad kazes da previse lici na Max. Mislim, nije to ona Maya koju je pravio Alias Wavefront ali ovakva je vec godinama i ne vidim neku vecu promenu u odnosu na, recimo, 2013. Mislim dodali su par novih stvari, nista revolucionarno naravno. Moguce da mislis na ovaj Modeling Toolkit i kako podseca na Graphite Modeling Tools, istina je ali kao i npr. Interactive Creation ili ti ViewCube, mozes ih iskljuciti ili ignorisati.

 

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^ Da, modeling toolkit + plus one debilne poruke što se pojavljuju (čini mi se da ceo UI polako prelazi u Max layout - ne bi me čudilo da ugase marking menus u korist Graphite toolbar-a :rolleyes: )

Inače, zagrcnuh se kad videh hilight new features/menus :D

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ne koristim mayu, max samo rekreativno, ali sta vam konkretno smeta u onom graphite modeling tulu. Mislim max je i onako sj#ban, tako da mi taj graphite uopce nije na smetnji kao ni kockica, koju ako nista drugo mozes iskljuciti pa zaboraviti. Ili je u pitanju okostavanje navike :P .

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Jedna od glavnih karakteristika Maya je oduvek bila brzina, jednostavnost (uslovno rečeno), organska rešenja u izvedbi (marking menus najpre), fleksibilnost.. jednom rečju slick. A sad se pretvorila u glomazni treš ala Max za debile. Razumem da hoće da bude "user friendly" i za debile al' čemu onda služi Max...

Nisam instalirao XSI, je l' i tu nešto "šminkali"?

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mnjah.... znas cinema, da parafraziram Ljubu Moljca ima malo alata ali lepo rasporedjenih B) , normalno zavisi sta i kako radis, kao sto ni ja ne koristim masu stvari ucinemi ali bih voleo da imam ponesto iz maxa. Od viska glava ne boli. A to sto prckaju po interjfejsu, bez potrebe je stvarno iritirajuce... ali valjda i ljudi kojima je to posao moraju da nesto rade ne bi li zasluzili placu <_<

Koliko citam Maya je odavno postala splavarusa, cak i oni koji je vole, mrze je. Ali sta je tu je, izgleda da jedino ona moze da odradi neke stvari a XSI sada rade ona 4 kineza cini mi se, kazu da nisu nista narocito pokvarili :lol:

 

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Ja stvarno nisam osetio toliku razliku. Radi mi isto kao sto je radilo i do sada. Pre 10-ak god kada sam probavao sav 3D software trebalo je da importujem neki veliki cad file i jedino je Maya odradila to u nekom prihvatljivom vremenu, 3D Max nije ni mogao da ucita fajl. tj trebalo mu je par dana :D. Od tada i ako sam prvo poceo sa Max-om koristio sam prvenstveno Maya-u i nemam nameru da ucim drugi software cisto zbog nekih sitnica. Ja taj marking menu ni ne koristim, stavim potrebne alate na moj tab i opal, a za specificne stvari otvorim drop down menu i eto.

Ne vidim razloga za toliku frustraciju, to je ipak samo alat. Da ne valja nebi ga koristili u najpoznatijim studijima. A koliko koriste Maya-u toliko pa cak i vise taj Max.

Ranije, koliko se secam, naj odbojnija stvar u Max-u mi je bila broj potrebnih pluginova za razliku od Maye ge si imao odmah sve na jednom mestu. Sad je to sve dovedeno u isti kosh.

 

Gledao sam neki preview za novi Zbrush i top komentar je bio "My dream is that Autodesk never buys Zbrush" ;D

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a moja nocna mora se zove adobe+maxon.... nece to na dobro izaci. Autodesk pljuju mnogi koji su koristili neke od njihovih uhicenika od prve verzije, mnogostosta se moze procitati, ali stoji i to da su se neki developeri sami nudili autodesku, a to sto se on tako odnosi prema imovini to je njegova stvar. Al aj malo da okrenemo na ozbiljno ;)

c:\users\ XX>I am so tired of running into bug after bug in CGI programs.

work in progress...

-Understood. I prefer Paint and Wordpad as well. Never hurt or crash me, only one core needed. Sometimes I even reach C-State 4. Deeper sleep.

 

c:\users\ XX>There are going to be bugs in every program,

-user input interrupted, criticism detected...

Don't say that, command line working fine for you right now.

And my mobile friend, busy Siri, is working hard for jerks all day.

 

c:\users\ XX>but the bugs in programs related to CGI

-Aaaah, CGI. These are stressing me as well. Only prime and benchmarks are worse.

 

c:\users\ XX>is way beyond the norm. I really can't see myself paying for programs that I use

-This is because you can't make any real money of your so-called art. Don't blame it on soft- or hardware.

 

c:\users\ XX>after years of frustration and cursing the very programs I depend on.

-Maybe you should try sending bug reports. Cursing doesn't help. Not even Siri keeps listening.

 

c:\users\ XX>I find myself not even enjoying the process anymore.

-Feel free to turn your back on me and give me away.

Put me into a room with some dirty retro hardware.

Always fun to have Lady Macs in transparent cases around.

Broken calculators being the only competition even I look smart.

 

c:\users\ XX>Its to much like work.

-Please complete your input.

 

c:\users\ XX>I am constantly finding work-arounds instead of being artistic.

-Why do you always bother me to render porn websites and warez boards?

Browser shit. Hey, I'm a quad core. Do something.

 

c:\users\ XX>Now, even when its not a bug, I am questioning it.

-Do you want to by the psychotherapeutical addon? 20% off today.

Answer [Y/N] to continue

 

c:\users\ XX>Y

-Fine. Already found your CC info in d:\I'm Prezadent of the world\secure\amex.txt

 

Downloading addon (psychotherapy for command line)...

1%

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99%

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Download finished.

Installing addon...

Please tell me more about your current work situation.

 

c:\users\ XX>I could be doing something wrong myself but have become so jaded by the crap, I just assume its a bug.

-Your doctors Dr. Watson and Dr. Werfault told me about your mental disorders and

diagnosed some BSODs attention deficit hyperactivity disorder a few years ago.

 

How do you feel about this today, does it affect you in any negative way?

 

c:\users\ XX>I don't understand how paying customers put up with crappy, buggy software. Unbelievable.

-Would you agree to answer a short, 10 question stress test?

Answer [Y/N] to continue

 

c:\users\ XX>K

-I'll take this as a yes.

Answer [0-4]. 0=never 1=almost never 2=sometimes 3=fairly often 4=very often

 

1. In the last month, how often have you felt nervous and stressed?

 

c:\users\ XX>4

 

2. In the last month, how often have you felt confident about your ability to handle your personal problems on your own?

 

c:\users\ XX>0

 

3. In the last month, how often have you been upset because of something that happened unexpectedly?

 

c:\users\ XX>4

 

4. In the last month, how often have you been angered because of things that were outside of your control?

 

c:\users\ XX>10

 

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Enumeration yielded no results for answer 10.

Out of bounds.

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foundari je uzaptio modo, ima mari, sada verovatno merka pixologic ili 3dcoat pa da zaokruzi pricu, sto ce reci koji ce mu autodesk. A sto se tice adobea, stvarno nek se oni rvu sa autodeskom, ne treba mi cinema u oblacima. <_<

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pa ti si pomenuo integraciju :huh: a razlike ... pa jos uvek koristim cs 5. sestica je donela neka unapredjenja ali celo to smaranje sa instalacijom adobe produkata nije vredno truda, R14 je dodao neke fine stvari, normalno ako ti trebaju.

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Pitao sam u sekciji za graficke table ali predpostavljam da negledaju svi tamo pa da ponovim ovde.

 

Da li mi igra neku ulogu da je tabla osetljiva na dodir?

 

Da kupujem http://www.wacom.eu/index2.asp?pid=8003&lang=en ili http://www.wacom.eu/index2.asp?pid=8004&lang=en

 

Razlika u ceni je oko 15k din sto i nije tako malo....

 

Ja naizgled ne vidim zasto bi mi trebala osetljivost na dodir..... sta vi mislite? Neka iskustva?

 

Takodje, jel neko kupovao online posto postoji popust http://www.computers.rs/graficke-table/876...tk-650-en.html# a kazu isporuka na celoj teritoriji Srbije za dz ako je vrednost predmeta preko 15k din i ako je laksi od 10 Kg, placanje po vidjenju robe?

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Koliko sam ja video, time ti dobijas opciju da tablet prepoznaje pokrete tvojih prstiju, pa mozes da okreces "papir" na kom crtas ili postavis da odredjeni pokret radi undo itd. Mislim lepo zvuci ali meni nekako deluje ne potrebno. Mozda gresim. Zato i pitam.

A sto je po tebi bolja ako je osetljiva na dodir?

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i mene interesuju iskustva drugih. Kad pogledam jedna ruka mi je zauzeta na tastaturi ili dugmicima na samoj tabli, u drugoj ruci mi je olovka.... pa kojim onda XXXXX da dodirujem tablu, nosem valjda :P Ono sto sam video po YuTubletu nije me se impresioniralo, jeste zabavno ali za te novce bi kupio nesto pametnije.

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