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Pozzz, imam problem sa racunarom sledece prirode ako neko moze da me posavetuje:

 

- Iako malo stariji racunar po godinama oko cca 7 godina, a u pitanju je gygabite AMD Athlon x4 x 2.9GHZ sa 6 GB RAMA radio je odlicno sa fotoshopom

- Imao sam problem sa startovanjem sistema WIN7 i preinstalirao sam novi WIN10 a morao sam jednu Ram memoriju od 2GB da izbacim jer mi se javljao problem da nisam mogao da podignem sistem.

- Sada imam 4GB Rama i racunar radi normalno osim u Photoshopu

-Medjutim posle 10-ak dana od instalacije sistema i Photoshopa koji je radio odlicno sa 6GB rama, pa i par dana sa 4GB rama nakon sto sam morao 2 GB rama da izbacim odjednom vise ne mogu da koristim fotoshop jer mi odmah po otvaranju bilo kog fajla makar bio i JPEG izbaci gresku da nema dovoljno RAM memorije, jedino radi sa malim fajlovima i prostim operacijama.

- Lightroom i Camera Raw rade bez problem cak i sa 16 bitnim fajlovima

- Instalirao sam Adobe CC 2017/2018 verzije

 

Ima li neko ideju sta dalje .......

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Evo još dodatnih inforamcija možda pomogne jer ne znam šta dalje....

 

u Win7 dok sam radio nisam imao probleme sa startovanjem windowsa sve dok nisam instalirao Service pack 1. To sam morao da uradim jer nisam mogao da instaliram Adobe CC. Nakon instalacije win 7 + SP1 instalirao sam i Adobe CC. Sistem je radio OK, znači umeo je da koči ponekad kao radi nešto u pozadini ali Photoshop kao program nije bilo problema. Posle 7-10 dana win počeo da puca tako što ne mogu da ga startujem bez instalacionog diska i to svaki put kad isključim komp. Ali kada se uključi radi pefektno kao i photoshop CC.

Tada sam imao 3 slota RAMa po 2GB.

Zato hajde da probam Win10.

Instaliram Win10 i Adobe Cc i to PSD+LR+CR i sve radi 2-3 dana OK da bi ponovo počeo komp da kada ga uključim neće bez instacionog diska da se uključi, kad se uključi radi super.

Tu sam skidao memorije dok nisam po meni skapirao da jedna ne radi kako treba. Sada radim sa 2x2GB=4GB

Izbacio sam je i sada win10 nema nikakvih problema lepo se podigne i lepo radi ali fotošop više nije hteo da radi.

Izbacuje grešku da nema dovoljno ram memorije.

 

Nemam ništa instalirano na tom računaru osim Adobe programa.

 

Scratch disc mi je C i na njemu imam još 150GB slobodno. imam više particija ali njih nisam stavio pod scratch disk.

Stvarno ne znam šta dalje da radim ???

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Sada mi je Photoshop upravo izbacio gresku tj pukao i evo Crash report pa ga kopiram mozda neko razume ja ne:

 

 

<?xml version="1.0"?>

<!DOCTYPE AdobeCrashReport SYSTEM "AdobeCrashReporter.dtd">

<crashreport serviceVersion="1.6.3" clientVersion="1.6.3" applicationName="Adobe Photoshop CC" applicationVersion="19.1.2" build="20180302.r.277">

<time year="2018" month="3" day="23" hour="18" minute="31" second="52"/>

<user guid="99401861-60f0-4c4e-b7f3-1c9ccd9fadd0"/>

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<stackStatement index="0" address="0x00007FFAAC96318B" symbolname="RtlpNotOwnerCriticalSection"/>

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Evo slika, ali to je bilo pre 10-ak dana dok nisam izvadio jednu RAM memoriju, sada sve radi OK osim Photoshop-a

 

Ja sam u pocetku mislio da posle instalacije SP1 na Win7 problem je sa nekim hardwerom ili drajverom da mozda nije kompatibilan sa novim update-om kao i sa WIN10.....

sada kada sve radi ok samo photoshop ne radi jer izbacuje gresku da nema dovoljno RAMA cak i za jpeg sliku od 1MB je cudno, dok Adobe LR i Adobe Camera Raw rade bez greske sa raw fajlovima full size...

 

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Probaj ovo mozda da popravi stvar.

 

To restore preferences quickly using a keyboard shortcut:

 

Press and hold Alt+Control+Shift (Windows) or Option+Command+Shift (Mac OS) as you start Photoshop. You are prompted to delete the current settings. The new preferences files are created the next time you start Photoshop.

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Ako je jedan memorijski modul crkao, velika verovatnoca je da su i drugi moduli krenuli u istu stranu.

 

Izvadi modul, obriši zlatne kontakte gumicom za mastilo, vrati nazad.

 

U svakom slučaju ti se uskoro smeši kombinacija ploča - procesor - memorija - hard...

 

 

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Prvo sto treba da uradis je bekapujes podatke s tog HDD-a .. da ne bi stvrno bilo leeeleee :-)

Zatim odnesi komp u neki servis gde bi ljudi mogli da ga testiraju.

Ovo sto ti se desava nema veze s operativnim sistemom. Lako moze da se desi da ti crkava ploca.

Bez temeljnog testa, komponentu po komponentu tesko moze da se utvrdi sta je u pitanju.

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pre nego što se konstantuje da mora u servis pitam sledeće:

 

Da kojim slučajem nije problem u samom photoshopu CC2018 jer sam sinoć instalirao stari Adobe Photoshop Cs5 koji radi sasvim normalno i ne pravi problem sa memorijom, jeste da malo sporije radi ali radi bez grešaka.

 

 

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Nadji nekog ko se iole razume u bios da ti podigne napon na memoriji, tako ce je ustabiliti i nek provrti neki test za memoriju memtest ili slicno, da ne nosas bez veze komp po servisima i da ti uzimaju lovu!

Inace taj narodni photoshop retko pravi problem da nece bas da radi, pojedini njegovi delovi mogu da ne rade kao na placenoj verziji u zavisnosti od kreka ili broja koji je ukucan (npr. sve radi ali obicno slajsovanje baguje) itd...

Sto se tice harda instaliraj hdd sentinel da vidis koliko tij je siguran HDD da ne bacas graske!

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